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Water Court home,and so they have lived there for about nineteen(19)years. They closed right <br /> after Hurricane Andrew in 1993, and so the house has been near and dear to his heart. <br /> Everything that they have done to the house they have tried to do within the context of <br /> maintaining the house. The windows are a constant work because they are all wooded, the <br /> shutters are up a lot because you have to take the windows down, strip them, and they have all <br /> the glazing in them which has to be taken out. A lot of times they have to replace the glass and <br /> put them all back up again, and so the house requires a lot of maintenance. But in general,they <br /> raised their kids there and they have been very happy there. <br /> City Historian Richard Schulman said the reason this property became historic was because the <br /> founder of this whole area, Harvey Baker Graves, lived there in the 1920's, and it became <br /> historic by the Miami-Dade County Historic Preservation Board on January 19, 1984. Our City <br /> re-designated it an historic site in October of 2004. It is one of five historic sites in our City. <br /> Chairperson Masters noted that this request has been recommended by our Consultant, and he <br /> asked if there were any questions before they voted on this. Trina Duluc said she passes the <br /> house and noticed that the fence is very dense and you can't see through it to see the house, and <br /> since it is historic, why can't we have more of a view of the beautiful mansion. Commissioner <br /> Scholl said because it is private property, having an historic house is an interesting perspective <br /> because basically he considers it an uncompensated burden. In other words,he has the burden of <br /> living with all these rules and regulations, and he gets no benefit for that but they also protect <br /> their privacy. They used to have the front open and they had droves of people walking into the <br /> yard and taking pictures in front of the house because it was rumored that it was Al Capone's <br /> house, and there is a lot of folk lore associated with it. Over the years what they try to do is to <br /> limit that and at the same time protect their privacy and that is why they have the hedge there. <br /> Frankly they never had a fence before,unfortunately what they have had to do over the years is to <br /> keep getting increasingly better security. Now what is happening is with the point finished, it <br /> was under construction for a while with the roadwork there. Now folks are fishing on the point <br /> again and they walk along the seawall and they decide to fish in their yard and so it is <br /> unfortunate. Mainly for personal privacy,because they don't have a backyard,the house is set all <br /> the way back on the water. Any time they spend in the yard, they spend in the front yard, and <br /> when they do that people pull up in their cars wanting to come into the yard to take a picture. <br /> Warren Stamm said it was unclear from the picture where the fence you are proposing is going, <br /> and Commissioner Scholl said on the east side of the house they have a wall that goes half way <br /> down the property and a wooden fence in the back that goes to the bay. In front of the house they <br /> have stem walls,there are columns and little stem walls,and Ms. Uguccioni showed the site plan <br /> (2 pages). Commissioner Scholl also showed a picture from the package of what was already in, <br /> and what is being proposed in extending the fence. It is the same fence that they have always had <br /> there, it is just extending it. The house is on the water and so the fence won't obstruct the view <br /> of the house. The biggest issue that they have had is from a security standpoint. They have a <br /> house in Colorado and so they spend a lot of time there as well, but when the road work got <br /> done, the folks walking on the property went up expeditiously, which is why they have decided <br /> to do this. Cassey Gabor said it may also cause a liability if someone slips and falls on the <br /> property. Commissioner Scholl said that is the issue, ultimately somebody slips and falls and <br /> they get sued. He also stated his wife is a lawyer and so she is much more cognizant of those <br /> things than he is. But that is really the issue, and where the pergola used to be, it blew down <br /> Agenda 2012-0717 HPB Mtg Page 3 of 5 <br />
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