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Stamm about the Thunderbird Sign, and he conveyed to him that we should go forward. He distributed a report on existing artifacts that the City already has. The most recent one is on the first page which is the Carriage Light that was installed about two months ago and it has a plaque now. He did an inventory of everything from 2003 to the current time, and it is ongoing. The City has a lot of memorabilia including postcards, brochures, photographs, etc. For artifacts,there are possibly some of the Rascal House items that the City gave to the Dezer Auto Museum,and he talked to them and they mentioned that they would spend some time researching to see if they can find any of these items there. Chair Camaraza said the origin of this item was that we basically discussed that regardless of who owns the item, the question is, should it be deemed historic, and that came from the discussion of the camels and the Thunderbird sign. Letters were going to go out and he asked if we got any responses back from those letters. David Udoff said he sent the letters out but has not received any responses, there are no real artifacts out there that we can find right now. Chair Camaraza said then that the only thing on the table that we know of to pursue are the camels, and the Thunderbird Sign. City Attorney Ottinot said the other thing that Consultant Ellen J. Uguccioni said was to amend the Code by saying "historic objects" instead of "artifacts". This Board may be inclined to designate items that are historic objects and not artifacts. There is a different connotation and he asked Ms. Uguccioni to explain this further. Consultant Ellen J. Uguccioni said the word"artifact"has a specific meaning to it and it has to do with archeology and archeological digs to when you excavate something. An"object" is something that is associated with physical activity,human activity,mostly or often artistic in nature, a fountain, a horse and carriage, something that has to do with history, it does not have to be artistic in nature. In order for you to be right on the money in terms of consistency with everyone else, she had written a memo regarding a proposed amendment to the City Code to include a definition of"historic object." City Attorney Ottinot said to send it to City Clerk Hines and she will send it to the Board members. Ms. Uguccioni recommended that we add to the list of definitions in the City Code to include both "artifacts" and `objects" that can be designated as historic. First we have to have the definition written and brine it to the Historic Preservation Board to review. Loretta de Vries suggested to contact previous owners of the property before they sold it to the developers and ask them if they have saved anything from the hotel. Chair Camaraza agreed and said we should reach out to anyone who had a major stake during that time period because you don't lose anything by doing that and you don't know what you may get back. In the meantime he would like to make a motion to designate the camels as historic items, and he would also like for the Thunderbird Sign to be requested back because apparently the City already gave that to them, to see if it is still available. City Attorney Ottinot said procedurally, if this is a desire of this Board to designate the camels and what we should do is to put a notice in the newspaper and also put it as an agenda item for the next meeting so that we will all know what is required. Chair Camaraza asked if that was the opinion of the rest of the Board members because we have new members tonight and the last time we were pretty much unanimous on that idea, and the Board agreed. Summary Minutes: 2015-0121 HPB Mtg Page 6 of 7