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<br />Summary Minutes: Regular City Commission Meeting <br /> <br />July 8, 2004 <br /> <br />City of Sunny Isles Beach, Rorida <br /> <br />meantime we are asking the City Attorney to draw up the Ordinance. Mayor Edelcup <br />clarified that the City would be the sole seller except where a developer buys for its own <br />use and remove cap. <br /> <br />12B. Discussion regarding Submerged Land, <br /> <br />Action: Mayor Edelcup reported that there have been a lot of definitions in our Land <br />Development Regulations about calculating FAR and gross property, density, and <br />whether or not submerged land, wet lands, up lands, and all the various forms, just want <br />to make sure that what is in the Ordinance doesn't conflict within itself. Planning and <br />Zoning Administrator Jorge Vera stated that he wanted to get clarification from the <br />Commission regarding the definitions of what submerged land is and how it is applied if <br />it is to be applied to the whole City or to the Town Center area. He said he believed the <br />issue arose during the Town Center area in the strip abutting the canal behind the <br />southern portion of Sunny Isles Boulevard and it could affect several properties <br />especially the ones that have been going through negotiations. He said we need to <br />address this to assure what the FAR is, if submerged land is to be counted toward the <br />FAR and density. He said the discrepancies are between the FAR, gross acre and gross <br />area vs, the lot area, one is contradicting the other up to a point, we need to decide if <br />submerged land is to be counted toward the FAR and density. <br /> <br />Mayor Ede1cup said the options are to either not count any of the submerged land in the <br />calculation of the FAR, count it all, or conceivably there could be a compromise and <br />count a portion of it. Commissioner Iglesias said we spoke about that in the last <br />workshop and whatever land you own, you pay taxes on it, and you count it, and they <br />threw out the riparian rights. Mayor Edelcup said he has a problem with submerged land <br />because in some cases we have seen properties where 2/3rds or 3/4s of the land has <br />eroded and become submerged and only maybe a l~ of the property is left and are we <br />going to allow on that l~ property something to be built that would have otherwise been <br />built on that entire property. <br /> <br />Public Speakers: Joseph Milton; Cliff Schulman <br /> <br />Joseph Milton said that this was discussed at the workshop, as he brought it up with <br />riparian rights because overnight he lost 25% of the land because his surveyor put the <br />property line in the wrong place. He said there are two definitions of density: 1) gross <br />density, which counts the entire acreage including submerged land and upland; and 2) net <br />density, includes only upland, and that this was discussed at the February 8, 2004 Town <br />Center Workshop. Mayor Edelcup said that this Commission can affirm what was said at <br />that Workshop and instruct staff to correct it, or the Commission can disavow if it so <br />chooses. Vice Mayor Goodman asked City Attorney Dannheisser if we did anything to <br />anybody that would harm this, and City Attorney Dannheisser said that she agreed that <br />there is a discrepancy in definitions, the interpretation, every since the passage of the <br /> <br />12 <br />
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