2011-1020 Regular City Commission Meeting

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Summary Minutes: Regular City Commission Meeting October 20,201 I City of Sunny Isles Beach, Florida incorporate into their services the full permitting, going to W ASA making sure that the elements associated with the connection which are a little complicated in the sense that the elevations are not there for the tie-in, and to make sure that in their review for the design that they took the time with their Civil Engineer to go out to the field with a surveyor to ascertain whether or not we would be able to institute a restroom. They adjusted their proposal in line with having to run the permits, to ensure that they dialogue with W ASA and DERM, that they go to the City of North Miami Beach to ensure that those tie-ins and all the issues are resolved in advance of just getting a design that we would have to run the permits. Commissioner Scholl said he would rather spend $140,000 on amenities in the Park, considering that Gateway Park will be a block away with bathroom facilities. Commissioner Aelion said that at the Workshop it was debated if we need bathrooms there, as a comparative on how large and how much usage the park would have, it came to light that it is going to be used for a Kayak area which is going to involve a lot of traffic, and so it is his feeling to see if we can establish bathrooms in the Park. Vice Mayor Thaler agreed with Commissioner Aelion, he thinks with the kayaks and the boats down there that we should have bathrooms. He also agrees with Commissioner Scholl on the cost, and that we should look into reducing the cost after we find out if we can put bathrooms in there. Commissioner Gatto agreed that there is a need for restrooms at the Park because of the kayak area. Commissioner Scholl said we don't know how much activity it is going to generate. He hates to throw in more money on the assumption that it is going to be imminently successful. He may be okay with $50,000 for prefab bathrooms but then we have the ongoing maintenance cost and they are in a remote location. Mayor Edelcup said his comments mirror Commissioner Scholl's, and again, until we build the Park and until we rent out the kayak operation and then find out how active it is, he thinks we are putting the cart before the horse. Perhaps we need to have bathrooms there when it is proven that there is a need for them as opposed to anticipating the need since we are not talking about a small sum of money. Did we put this out to bid in a turnkey operation, we always seem to get burned by spending a lot of money for design, and then find that what we are buying doesn't fit the design, and then we go back to redesign to fit what we did buy. And so his suggestion would be to defer this item until such time as you can come in with a lower cost plan and defer actually doing this until we open the Park and know what kind of activity we have there. This is not something that we can't go in and retrofit and he doesn't see the need to have to put it in there today or this coming l2-month period when we know it is going to be a while before we even know whether or not we need the facilities there. City Manager Cohen said we can split this up, doing the investigation is something that we have to do at some point if we ever want to look at bathrooms there. There is a question as to whether or not this can be done with the existing gravity line or whether or not we will have to put a lift station in. If a lift station were required he is not sure our recommendation would be to move forward with it because the cost for that would be prohibitively expensive. We could segment this off and do the investigation and not do drawings, and come back to you with a report first. We can pull this and segment that out. Commissioner Aelion asked what the timeframe is of exploration and build, and Mr. Batista said the exploration should take no more than a few weeks. Once they get a survey crew out 9