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<br />Summary Minutes: Regular City Commissioll Meeting <br /> <br />March 15,2012 <br /> <br />City of Sunny Isles Beach, Florida <br /> <br />until we deal with this issue in a holistic matter to try and find a permanent solution, this is <br />going to keep coming back to us, and it is easy for the folks that don't live there to sit and <br />rationalize this but it keeps coming up again and again, and so it is really bothering a group <br />of people. The fact is that we are exceeding our own noise ordinances, and we have proof of <br />that and it is very frustrating. <br /> <br />Mayor Edelcup said we are not exceeding the noise ordinance, if you read the ordinance <br />because the City Manager brought it to him, it goes above the decibel reading for the higher <br />noise. City Manager Cohen said he would like to clarifY that because we had another <br />situation in the community and so he had to do some learning so to speak on the noise <br />ordinance, and what he realized is there are two aspects of it regarding this situation. One is <br />that we were under the mistaken impression that the 60 decibel limit was a solid limit but the <br />way our Code is written it says you cannot exceed either 60 decibels or the background <br />ambient noise whichever is greater, and so the study that was done just read the noise from <br />the Park and he is not sure if we did a comparative. Commissioner Scholl said so we don't <br />know what the background ambient noise was, and so we don't know if we have exceeded it <br />or not but we assumed in the first part of the study that we exceeded it. City Manager Cohen <br />said secondly and this is the more interesting twist in this is that our noise ordinance only <br />applies to noise generated from private property. Commissioner Scholl said how ridiculous <br />is that. Again, we can try to support our arguments with all of these technical nuisances and <br />try to reach into our Code and try to extract but his point is, we need to find a permanent <br />solution, this will be coming back to us until we do. He is not in favor of extending the <br />hours, he would love to have the hours 24/7 if we had a permanent solution because he <br />believes we need to keep the kids off the streets as well but we are not addressing the eore <br />issue and we need to do it. <br /> <br />Vice Mayor Thaler said that he thinks we are now, we are moving forward on getting the <br />report that we are aU looking for. Commissioner SchoU said in the meantime though we <br />shouldn't put these folks through any more anguish. Vice Mayor Thaler said he disagrees, <br />the January figures were almost at 800 kids for the month of January, and 700 kids for the <br />month of February which are both an increase over previous months, and he thinks if we <br />would have closed the Park which is what your suggestion was, they would be all over the <br />City. Commissioner Scholl said his suggestion was not to close the Park, he voted for it but <br />he explained his vote because he was given no alternative. He has been consistent about <br />finding a permanent solution. <br /> <br />City Manager Cohen said he would like to clarify an important point here because he thinks <br />based on this clarification all of you will be in favor of what we are putting forth. <br />Technically the resolution that expired at the end of the summer would have led us to <br />extending the hours back to the original hours of 8:00 p.m., seven days a week, and so the <br />recommendation is not to do that but to only extend it two days a week. Ifthere is no action <br />taken, we would be compelled to bring it back to seven days a week, 8:00 p.m., and their <br />recommendation is not to do that. Commissioner Scholl noted that this is just a discussion <br />item, we are not voting on this tonight. City Manager Cohen said no but he is seeking <br />direction from the Commission on that. Mayor Edelcup said since you were compelled to <br />bring it back, he is willing to just bring it back for those two hours as a compromise, but if <br />we can't reach a compromise to bring it back to where it was and follow the ordinance, there <br /> <br />20 <br />
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