HomeMy WebLinkAboutHPB Minutes 2006-0328 SUMMARY MINUTES
City of Sunny Isles Beach
Historic Preservation Board Meeting
Government Center, 18070 Collins Avenue, Sunny Isles Beach
Tuesday, March 28, 2006, 6:00 p.m.
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1. CALL TO ORDER BY CHAIRPERSON:
Action: Vice-Chairperson Joe Masters called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. The
following Committee Members and City Officials were present:
Committee Members: City Officials:,
Dione E. Del Monico, Chairperson [via Phone] Mayor Norman S. Edelcup
Joe Masters, Vice-Chairperson Vice Mayor Roslyn Brezin
Trina Duluc Commissioner Gerry;Goodman
Phillip Chernoff City Manager A. John Szerlag
Cassey Gabor Deputy City Attorney.Patricia SaintVil-Joseph
City Clerk Jane A. Hines
Michael Tribby, Information Tech. Dept.
City Liaison: Absent Members:
Richard Schulman, City Historian Michelle D'Arbelles
Bonita Shoki
2. SELF INTRODUCTIONS:
Action: Vice-Chairperson Masters thanked everyone for attending and noted that Chairperson
Del Monico is here via conference call from Colorado, and everyone introduced themselves.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE DECEMBER 6, 2005 HISTORIC PRESERVATION
BOARD MEETING:
Action: Phillip Chernoff noted a correction on page 3, third paragraph from the bottom, he said
he did not note that the Board had discussed Ellen Wynne's home and that they made a replica
of her home; and the third sentence up, he did not say that you can also designate historically
not only by the architect but by the person who lived there. Casey Gabor said that she had a
change on page 3 as well, paragraph 3, she did not note that the Suez has already been torn
down. City Clerk Hines said she would make the corrections. Philip Chernoff moved and
Trina Duluc seconded a motion to approve the December 6, 2005 Committee meeting
summary minutes, as amended. The motion was approved by a 5-0-2 [Michelle
D'Arbelles and Bonita Shoki absent] vote.
4. PRESENTATION OF 2005 FINAL REVIEW REPORT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION
BOARD TO MIAMI-DADE COUNTY/STATE AGENCIES - SIGNATURES OF
CHAIRPERSON/LIAISON AND BOARD MEMBERS APPROVING REPORT.
Action: Richard Schulman stated that the final report was sent to Chairperson Del Monico for
her review and signature and that this final Report was the result of accomplishments and
decisions of this Board last year. He said the Board's actions and final resolutions by the City
Commission have been documented and approved by our City Attorney along with proper
signatures. He said that this final report will now be forwarded to the proper authorities in
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Miami-Dade County and the State of Florida. Cassey Gabor moved and Phillip Chernoff
seconded a motion to accept and forward the Report in accordance with the existing
rules and regulations. The motion was approved by a 5-0-2 [Michelle D'Arbelles and
Bonita Shoki absent] vote.
5. DISCUSSION, REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF TYPES OF PLAQUES FOR HISTORIC
SITES — LOCATION FOR PLACEMENTS.
• Newport Fishing Pier;
• Atlantic Isles Entrance Bridge;
• Atlantic Isles Lake Bridge; and
• Pergola Home of Chairperson Del Monico.
Action: Mr. Schulman said he brought samples of materials and engravings based upon the
types of plaques that will hold up the best in front of these historic sites, and passed them
around. He said the plaque would be encased in concrete and noted that there are two types
of plaques that can be installed: one is a bronze plaque which is privy to the weather, and
another material called coreon, which is a very hard substance. He said the cost of the coreon
plaque, 8W x 11" is about $200.00 and the bronze plaque is $345.00. Mr. Schulman noted
that bronze will eventually turn color and corrode in about a year, and the coreon will not turn
color and it will last indefinitely. He said the logo would be in black and white and it will be
engraved, and comes in different colors but he would recommend the coreon plaque in
charcoal with white lettering. He said it would be embedded either in concrete, depending on
the location, or we will drill holes and bolt them into the concrete that is already there. He said
he will go out with Public Works Director James Watts and take a look at what the best way is.
Mr. Schulman asked Chairperson Del Monico about placing a plaque,in the area of her home
and she said she would speak to her husband to see what his feelings are before she gives an
answer. Mr. Schulman said that we would not go forward with this until the next meeting when
she is back in town.
Vice Mayor Brezin said that these are areas where there will be a lot of sand, dirt, and residue
and the lettering on the plaques is recessed and it would fill with dirt, sand, etc., and it needs to
be determined to be cleaned so that the lettering remains clear for identification purposes.
Vice Chairperson Masters asked about the plaques in our parks and Mayor Edelcup said that
they are not in good shape due to the salt. Commissioner Goodman said that we need
something weatherproof or it won't work. Mayor Edelcup said that we are not spending a lot of
money on them and if they deteriorate, they can be replaced. Cassey Gabor said it is
important where the plaques are placed. Mayor Edelcup said they should be placed in the
most visible place, and Richard Schulman said he would go out and take pictures of the sites.
Chairperson Del Monico said that she felt that the coreon was a Ismart move as far as
maintenance goes.
6. DISCUSSION OF THE GOLDEN STRAND HOTEL LOCATED AT 17901 COLLINS AVENUE
AS AN HISTORIC SITE, TO MOVE FORWARD ON LEGAL OPINION — "TIME SHARE"
HOTEL.
Action: Vice-Chairperson Masters asked Richard Schulman to report on his meeting with the
Golden Strand. Mr. Schulman said that at this point as a Board, we;are in the investigative
stage, and are gathering information for our Legal Department so that they can come up with
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some answers to move forward on this as an historic site, and noted the following facts about
the Golden Strand:
• there are two buildings: the first one is 4-stories high and was built in 1946; and the
second building is located on the north side and is 6-stories high built by Sid Solomon in
1964;
• there is a 500-foot frontage in both buildings (the running linear feet in the building);
• in 1980 it turned into a timeshare ownership;
• management is a 9-member Board of Directors;
• there are 152 units;
• there are 4,700 timeshare owners;
• there is a Lease Covenant Agreement that runs through the year 2032, so that a
developer cannot touch that property as an investment for another 26 years; and
• noted that there were originally 16 villas that are now gone. ,
Mr. Schulman said that he met with Board Member Joe Feldman who had two concerns about
making the Golden Strand an historic site: 1) in case of a major hurricane, the cost of the
damages that they would have to put out of their pockets as unit owners, and thought it could
be very costly if there was a storm surge; and 2) there would be a distinct devaluation of the
property. He said that Mr. Feldman didn't know if he would talk to the Board at this time as
there will be an election within 30-days for a new Board of Directors. '
Mr. Schulman said that the fact that there is a 26-year additional covenant that they would not
sell that property to any developer, and then they have an option in 26 years to roll that over for
a certain period of time. He said that our Board has the authority to devote on that, but that he
would like to see a legal opinion on how that would work.
Chairperson Del Monte asked for clarification from Mr. Schulman regarding the 26-years left on
their land lease hold, and asked him to repeat the restriction that they have on it. Mr.
Schulman said that they cannot sell that property to a developer for 26 years. Chairperson Del
Monico said that is the owners of the land but the unit owners are not'the owners of the land.
Mayor Edelcup said what Richard is referring to is the timeshare and that they have a limited
life, and Mr. Schulman said that most of the leases are one week out of the year. Chairperson
Del Monico said she is not concerned about the timeshare but is more concerned about the
ownership of the land and the buildings because she is trying to get an idea of, and what she
thought Richard said was that they can't make any changes to the building for 26 years but
actually they could tear down the building tomorrow if they wanted to, it is just that they have 26
years left on their lease. Mayor Edelcup said if the Board were to make it historic they would
be bound by the Board's decision regardless who owns it and who would eventually own it.
Chairperson Del Monico said she wanted to ask the City Attorney what happens when you
have an historic structure sitting on leased land, and Mayor Edelcup said that we are not sure if
that is the case, and Mr. Schulman said we need to get a copy of the covenant lease and the
land lease. Deputy City Attorney SaintVil-Joseph said we would have to get the lease
documents or ownership documents to verify what type of ownership exactly exists on the
property outside of the timeshare ownership and then once we get that we can advise you but
essentially you have the authority as a Board to dedicate any type of site as an historical site.
Chairperson Del Monico said she is trying to understand who is going to resist this designation,
obviously you have got the timeshare owners and their Board, now if you have a different
owner on the land then you are going to have another group that we are going to have to deal
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with and because obviously they are not going to want to see a structure sitting on a leasehold
that has a finite term being designated as historic which means that they are going to be stuck
with it after the term of their lease is over, so that is something that we should understand as
we are going forward.
Mayor Edelcup said one of the things you need to decide also is, is it worthy of consideration,
and Chairperson Del Monico said that was her next question to Richard and to the City
Attorney, what are the points for historic designation on this property. 'She said it needs to be
clearly defined and presented to the Board at the next meeting, a poirit by point presentation.
She noted that in the file there are guidelines for doing this, the process you need to go through
in order to present formally a property for designation to the Board andtit would give you certain
points that you basically check off or acknowledge that yes this exists,;etc., and this is why we
think it should be, and until we have that we really shouldn't do much more because we really
don't know, we know it is maybe 50 years old, but that alone is not enough to make something
historic worthy.
Mr. Schulman said that there are historic criteria that have been printed in the paper, and he
presented an article that was published in the Wall Street Journal 'last week, and read a
paragraph: "Local criteria for designation varies. Usually, codes draw on guidelines from the
Secretary of the Interior, which say landmarks should have characteristics that individually or
collectively represents historic or artistic significance, or are related to important historic people
or events. Different cities have their own twist."
Chairperson Del Monico said that you have that and you have the Federal Guidelines because
we each got a copy of that at one point. She said to take that and go through it and determine
what it is that you believe this particular property's characteristics it possesses that make it
worthy for historic designation, and then present that to the Board: Deputy City Attorney
SaintVil-Joseph said that was correct, and in addition, the Ordinance lays out specific
procedures in Section 4 that we need to follow in order to properly dedicate this site. She said
that she was able to contact the County and spoke to David Hertzberg'and he has advised her
that the County has initiated a County-wide survey to assist in identifying certain properties that
they will eventually propose as historic sites and that they have already completed Phase I of
their projects and that included blighted and low-income areas which did not include Sunny
Isles Beach. She said however, that Phase II will include Sunny Isles Beach and once they
have concluded their survey, they will then share their findings with usdif we are inclined to use
their findings. Chairperson Del Monico asked if they had a timeline on that because the last
time she spoke to them about a year ago, they told her that Sunny Isles Beach would be at
least 5-7 years out in their survey process. Deputy City Attorney SaintVil-Joseph said
according to Mr. Hertzberg, he has indicated to her that Phase II is scheduled to be completed
by the end of 2007. Chairperson Del Monico said that it is a terrific tool, and that they haven't
done that in about 20 years, although she doesn't know if it will help with the Strand at this
point just because it is a couple of years out and she doesn't know if the Board wants to wait
that long.
It was mentioned that if you decree an historical site that the property would be devalued, what
would make it devalue and would that affect the fact that it be designated an historic site.
Chairperson Del Monico said that she doesn't think that that is a good topic for our Board
because we are not involved in that and if you start doing that, you are acknowledging that
historic preservation in some way takes away property rights, and it has been constitutionally
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decided that it doesn't. She said that is something that every property owner is aware of but it
is not for our discussion. Vice-Chairperson Masters said what if you do not make this an
historic site but perhaps they would accept a plaque.
Mr. Schulman said that we can go ahead and put together the characteristics that would
designate this as an historic site and the reasons behind it, along with the legality of the land
lease. Chairperson Del Monico said that she felt that was definitely the next step if the Deputy
City Attorney agrees, and Deputy City Attorney SaintVil-Joseph said that she definitely concurs
because we need to start building the record with technical findings to support it if it is the
Board's decision to designate this site as an historic site. Chairperson Del Monico said she
agrees with the Deputy City Attorney to start building the record correctly, with public notice as
everyone has to be aware of what we are doing, and we have to have some formal position as
to why we believe this is up for historic designation.
Chairperson Del Monico noted to Richard when he brought up the fact that Board Member Joe
Feldman said that if a storm came that it would be onerous. She said the Historic Preservation
Code has clauses that allow for such catastrophes, if a building is blown down there are rules
and regulations to guide the Historic Preservation Board when these people come for their
permits for rebuilding, so that is something that really is not a problem. She said if a building
sustained such damage that it was unrecognizable, then other code provisions kick in and take
over. Chairperson Del Monico said that the bottom line is that this is supposed to be a
reasonable set of rules to protect historic structures, but reasonable is a primary word involved
in here and things that would be ridiculous obviously would not happen under exceptional
circumstances.
Phillip Chernoff said that he just had the opportunity to read of the history of the Golden Strand
and noted that in the forth paragraph down it states who stayed there and included a lot of
famous people. Mr. Schulman also noted that there is a song that was written entitled "The
Golden Strand" and he framed it and hung it in the History Hall.
7. NEW BUSINESS.
Action: Cassey Gabor said at the last meeting that Richard said he would check with.the
Sahara Hotel about the camels. Mr. Schulman said that Dezer owns that property and Mayor
Edelcup said that Dezer does own the property and that if the camels are moved they may
collapse. Mr. Schulman said like the Sphinx, it is ready to fall apart and the camels are the same
way. Vice-Chairperson Masters said that the Beautification Trust checked them out four years
ago and they were falling apart at that time. Mayor Edelcup said that the Dezers said we can
have the camels when they demolish the Sahara. Ms. Gabor commented regarding the
structural integrity of the camels in the event of a major storm as they withstood the hurricane.
Cassey Gabor suggested that when we place the plaques, we should have a ceremony.
8. DATE AND TIME OF NEXT MEETING.
Action: Vice-Chairperson Masters asked when Chairperson Del Monico will be home and she
said in June. After discussion it was decided to have the next meeting iri June 2006 at 6:00 p.m.
9. ADJOURNMENT.
Phillip Chernoff moved and Trina Duluc seconded a motion to adjourn the meeting, and Vice-
Chairperson Master adjourned the meeting at 6:40 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
n January 23, 2007
Jane A. Hines, CMC Date
City Clerk
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