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<br />Summary Minutes; Regular City Commission Meeting <br /> <br />July 8, 2004 <br /> <br />City of Sunny Isles Beach, Rorida <br /> <br />Mayor Edelcup: What ever ownership is presented is what we should use. <br />Shelley Eichner: correct, <br />Mayor Edelcup: If you own it you can count it and if you don't own it you can't. <br />Shelley Eichner: and we are very confident that the dimensions and the property <br />lines that are shown on the maps and the aerials that we distributed are 100% <br />accurate and if you have any other questions regarding it, you know Joe can go <br />into a lot more detail about bulkheads and upland areas and water but we are <br />100% convinced... <br />Mayor Edelcup: Like I said, in order to make it simple, if you own it we will <br />count it and if you don't own it we don't count it whether it is submerged or <br />wetlands. <br />Shelley Eichner; Right, correct, and that is fine. <br />Commissioner Iglesias: And I believe, Shelley just to add clarification because <br />obviously I raised the issue because I got the maps from the right-of-way, the <br />Department is very convenient when you can just go down and get it, but I think <br />the problem is because with these owners probably have riparian rights which <br />means they can use part of that property, <br />Shelley Eichner: They can use it but they don't own it. <br />Commissioner Iglesias: that is correct, that is what I am saying, every water land <br />is owned by the State of Florida anyway, okay, so the property... terminology <br />you use just gi ve them for whatever property they own. <br />Shelley Eichner: Correct, and we don't know why the word "property line" is <br />there but it certainly created much confusion and work the last couple of days, <br />but that was fine. <br />Mayor Edelcup: That should get us down to the last item... <br /> <br />Commissioner Iglesias said he would like to revise his motion that we approve up to the <br />bulk head line, Commissioner Brezin seconded it. Commissioner Thaler said no, he <br />would like to go through the whole tape himself. Vice Mayor Goodman said he is <br />comfortable with it. City Attorney Dannheisser said it should be property line not bulk <br />head line, and clarified that submerged lands can be calculated for FAR and density <br />purposes, and Commissioner Iglesias said yes, up to the property line. Mayor Edelcup <br />said that all the other definitions need to reflect this. <br /> <br />Commissioner Iglesias moved and Commissioner Brezin seconded a motion to amend <br />Ordinance No. 2004-201, to approve up to the property line. The motion was <br />approved by a roll call vote of 4-0-1 in favor (Commissioner Thaler against). <br />Vote: Commissioner Brezin yes <br />Commissioner Iglesias yes <br />Commissioner Thaler no <br />Vice Mayor Goodman yes <br />Mayor Edelcup yes <br /> <br />14 <br />
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